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Forgotten Flyers Forwards Hold Key to Success in 2024

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Much has been made of the plethora of different combinations the Philadelphia Flyers could deploy in their top-six forward group.



Russian phenom Matvei Michkov joins a group that already includes breakout forward Owen Tippett, two-time NHL All-Star Travis Konecny, former Selke Trophy winner Sean Couturier, and rookie standout Tyson Foerster.

Noah Cates and Joel Farabee, two forgotten Flyers forwards who are achieving veteran status in their NHL careers, are often left out of that equation.

But, the success of Cates and Farabee, especially when they play together, is equally as important to the Flyers as the success of Konecny, Michkov, and the other high-flying forwards.

For most of the 2023-24 season, the Flyers failed to find a third line combination that was effective. Couturier, Morgan Frost, Konecny, and Owen Tippett held down the fort in the top-six almost all year with Foerster, and sometimes Farabee, mixing in to help.

Cam Atkinson and Bobby Brink were mixed bags throughout the season, as Atkinson’s effectiveness completely vanished after the NHL All-Star break in January and Brink dealt with ebbs and flows in his consistency as a rookie playing in the big leagues for the first time as a regular.

Atkinson is now gone after being bought out by the Flyers and subsequently signing with the Tampa Bay Lightning, and Brink has returned on a two-year contract with the expectation that he makes the Flyers’ roster outright once again in 2024-25.

Should Michkov, Konecny, Tippett, and Foerster all assume or reprise a role in the Flyers’ top-six, Cates, Farabee, and Brink will have to take over bottom-six duty.

Farabee, and Brink especially, just aren’t fourth liners at the NHL level. They’re too talented offensively and, truthfully, aren’t good enough defensively to play that kind of role, which usually requires playing shutdown minutes defensively at some point.

Conversely, Cates was able to do this at a high level when playing alongside Ryan Poehling and Garnet Hathaway—a trio that was inarguably the Flyers’ best in the last six weeks of the 2023-24 season.

But, head coach John Tortorella likes Cates better as a center. The 25-year-old is less “static” when playing in the middle of the ice, where he can maximize his relentless motor, board play, and stick skills to create and deny chances.

However, Cates isn’t going to replace Poehling as the fourth line center, especially when the two were better together than apart.

Instead, Scott Laughton, who played third line center, is a better candidate to move down and over to wing.

This would allow the Flyers to have a fourth line of Laughton, Poehling, and Hathaway–three of the Flyers’ best penalty killers and most responsible forwards in their own zone.

By extension, Tortorella can maximize Cates’s potential by pairing him with Farabee and Brink.

If we go by the numbers, Cates and Farabee played exactly 153 minutes together at 5-on-5 last season, per Natural Stat Trick. In those minutes, they out-attempted their opponents 162-99, controlling 62.07% of the shot share.

In the same amount of time, they out-scored opponents 7-4, out-chanced them 77-45, dominated high-danger chances 37-14, and scored five high-danger goals to their opponents’ zero.  That’s pretty good, right?

When adding Brink to the equation, shots were 98-70 (58.33% of shot attempts), goals were 4-3, chances were 45-39, high-danger chances were 19-12, and high-danger goals were 3-0. Still pretty good, albeit slightly worse than Cates and Farabee with any other forward on the ice with them.

By sticking with this trio of forwards, Tortorella and the Flyers would be able to get the most out of a player like Cates while regulating ice time for Farabee and Brink. Farabee racked up a career-high 22 goals, 28 assists, and 50 points for a reason last year, but when the going got tough, he and a number of other Flyers tailed off substantially.

If we account for an electric first half and a dead-silent second half and go somewhere in the middle, yes, Farabee is probably a 45- or 50-point player at the NHL level. Brink, albeit still developing, is probably in the same boat.

In a dismal 2022-23 season, Cates, too, showed that he can perform at that level, even with only 16 games of NHL experience heading into that year.

If the Flyers are able to get 40 points out of each of these three on the third line whilst also out-playing opponents, that would be a massive success and a revelation for the future.

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Not Offsides

I think the Flyers had higher hopes for Farabee, but with the addition of Michkov and the advancement of Foerster, that does push him down to the third line. Cates is solid and if Brink develops, it could actually be a decent third line that could provide some offense. Laughton-Poehling-Hathaway is a good fourth line.

As usual, there are many “ifs” to determine how well the team develops this season: If Frost and Tippett continue to develop, if Couturier stays healthy, if Michkov is as good as he seems, if York and Sanheim become more dominant…

Romus

.….and if Drysdale stays healthy with Seeler on the 2nd pairing, and also Drysdale on the PP

Dave

WAY too many average overpaid Veterans. Nowhere NEAR enough Elite potential in thid top6 or ANYWHERE on the blue line. Only untouchable trade wise should be Michkov. Until this team has a LEGIT 1C and a legit 1D, no one should take these overpaid Veterans or overrated prospects seriously. It’s another joke of a rebuild. Flyers have 1 elite potential RW to build around. And another group of low ceiling late round busts with AHL projections.
So tired of watching lazy pugs like Laughton and guys like Cates who are bottom line guys on their best days. Abysmal. Poehling is the best Center on this team. Couturier I’d a Buyout candidate. Frost= 2nd round pick (At Best) or another overpaid 30 point a season guy. This team reeks of mediocrity and stinks of bubble playoff embarrassment and draft purgatory. AGAIN!!! STILL!!!

Bill M

Plain and simple we are Columbus Sabres, mediocrity is a complement

BIGE88

It takes years to do it RIgHT

we are almost there . We are still in need of 2/3 of our top line . Everything else will flow nicely from there .

this year is to take michkov and drysdale to gain their footing

by this time next year we will know who our center and power wing are

this isn’t Hextall circa 2016

Dave

Drysdale is a LTIR nightmare who’s barely played hockey over the past 3 years dude. Horrible trade.

Jesus is Lord

What kinda armchair quarterback are you? You do know Cut and run didn’t want to be here! They got what they could and it’s w

Dave

This Rebuild is as irrelevant as Hextall’s rebuild EVER was. Someone burn this clown shoe down and start rebuilding while Michkov is still here!!!

BIGE88

This isn’t hextall circa 2016 . I disagree . I gotta see michkov but foerster and Tippett are legit 2nd line snipers for a cup . I don’t care if they score 20,30 or 40 during regular season . Irrelevant

we need snipers who can do it and I’m confident Tippett and foerster can perform in playoffs

we are closer than anyone thinks here . One more uo and down year here now then it’s geaux time !!,

Dave

“Forgotten Flyers Rebuild holds the keys to success” you meant?

Dave

Farabee on the trade block? And I’m going to watch another year of Laughton, Frost, and Couturier at Center not get 100 points between the three of them and make how much money this season? Laughton should worry less about rainbows, politics, virtue signaling, and cringe commercials and more about the atrocious defensive play on ice from last season. And why tf would The Flyers have a letter on a guy like that while crying “culture” the whole time. Couturier looks like a Buyout candidate. Frost looks like bottom 6 trade bait. Laughton is an overpaid bottom liner. And Poehling us a solid 4C. And this team is now Max CAPPED for years to come with no 1C. No 1D. Questions in goal. And ONE elite potential Michkov worth building around with maybe York, Tippet, Farabee, and a solid group of overpaid Veterans and low ceiling prospects.
If the Rebuild us over. It failed miserably.

BIGE88

Your wrong this isn’t Gostisbehere who couldn’t play defense .

No backstop in that entire Hextall era like ristoleinen

voracek didn’t have a shot nor did he have power. Useless for playoffs

Simmonds was a power wing but 3rd line

no top line sniper

hextall era completely different

couturier is a top 6 center can do everything . That’s what u need for a cup . He’s better than Stephenson , Bennett as last two cup winners . And he’s better than tampa #2 behind point

Laughton can snipe and can play 4th line center or wing . That’s why he’s still here . Tremendous value for playoffs

your taking the last 3 years at face value and aren’t realizing what they are doing . Gotta recognize the parts

Dave

Michkov should be the only untouchable on this team.

Dave

Konecny has to be the lowest scoring 9m aav player in the NHL now no? If not close. Sure Couturier is up there too.

Romus

Where are you getting your information……last season, TKo posted career highs in goals (33) and points (68) through 76 games. He has 129 points (64 goals, 65 assists) in 136 games and 19:58 minutes per game over the last two seasons…..Jack Eichel, the Golden Knights’ center with a $10 million cap hit (per PuckPedia), has registered 134 points (58 goals, 76 assists) in 130 games and 19:37 minutes per game over the last two seasons…..Johnny Gaudreau, the Blue Jackets’ winger with a $9.75 million cap hit, has put up 134 points (33 goals, 101 assists) in 161 games and 19:07 minutes per game over the last two seasons….In the last two seasons, Konecny has scored one more even strength goal (46) than Panthers winger Matthew Tkachuk (45), who has played 23 more games over that span and has a $9.5 million cap hit….In the last two seasons, Konecny also has six more even strength goals than Panthers winger Sam Reinhart (40) and the same number of even strength points (92). Reinhart has played 28 more games in that span and just signed an eight-year, $69 million contract on July 1 to stay in Florida.

FatEagle

He posts the same uneducated nonsense on every article. Everyone sucks according to him. I’d say that it’s possible Laughton slept with his wife given how much he complains about him, but I can’t imagine anyone dating someone as miserable as him.

Dave

And? Handpicked statistics don’t mean Jack. A 68 point ceiling and 1 goal in 22 playoff games. Which you CONVENIENTLY decided not to talk about right Einstein? Try again. Lmfao

Dave

And now compare the Powerplay production of the guys who’s contacts you MIGHT ACTUALLY want! Like I said. One of the lowest scoring 9m aav players in the league. What a joke your argument was.

Not Offsides

Alot of people named Dave commenting on this story.

BIGE88

Farabee is now odd man out with Konecny contract . Michkov on top line eventually with a still unknown power wing

tippett and foerster are legit 2nd liners

Dave

Team needs to keep Farabee, trade Laughton, and get Couturier, Sanheim, and Ristolainen off the books.

Dave

And draft Hagens or Ryabkin

Dave

Because they aren’t getting a 1C in trade or the free agency and this Center lineup looks atrocious as is.

Dave

McGroarty or Zegras would be a HUGE steal for the Flyers right now. Either would be the highest potential player in the organization aside from Michkov immediately.

Bill M

Why McGroarty , because he’s trying to do what Cutter did? If you don’t like what Cutter did why would you want some one like him?

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